How can we be Christians who care? Let's not go beyond what the Lord says through His Word. or even some reformed guys or women who speak against Schirer. I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. 2And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. A large chunk of the New Testament (Matthew 7:15-23, 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, the book of Jude, and many other passages) is devoted to warning people against false teaching. read more, Scripture: Glad to know i am not the only dude that reads this wonderful sisters blog. You should learn from us not to go beyond what is written in Scripture. As a Christian when we face difficulty God provides the means for us to be encouraged, but we are not just to languish in that resting place. A. Job 36:26 Verse Concepts CARM has done articles on Beth Moore, Joyce Meyer, and some other well-known false teachers, which Ive linked to in other articles. Youve come to the correct conclusion about Priscillas teaching, and the Holy Spirit does direct genuine believers away from false teaching (John 10:5), but I want all of my readers who happen across this comment to please make sure (as Im sure Lynette did) you ALWAYS base your beliefs on what Scripture says, not on feelings and impressions. Heres why. Who then do you believe has not sinned and is qualified to teach Gods Word? Heres an example of Priscilla preaching to men and yoking with a false teacher as she preaches the Sunday sermon at Joel Osteens Lakewood Church: Priscilla teaches Christians to listen for Gods voice in an unbiblical form of prayer called contemplative prayer. Again, when the Bible says not to do something, and a person does it anyway, this is sin. #1 You have noted that Priscilla preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures but I cant find the link. It will be called the good shepherd calls. read more, Scripture: NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. Maybe God wants to stretch you beyond here! After all, Scripture teaches that Scripture is sufficient. And if I perish, I perish. We are to go beyond encouragement. Often God reveals more through discussions and scripture references. 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. Genesis 24:1-4. (Ive addressed that here in case you might be interested.). If youve poked around the blog a bit, you might have noticed that we just started a new Wednesday Bible study on the book of Colossians. 3And I will make thee swear by Priscilla often uses poor hermeneutics when handling Gods word. Iam finding that more and moreChristians have to be told this. What we believe about that is irrelevant. THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN TO AN ANONYMOUS CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO APPEARS TO OPEN HER HOME TO BELIEVERS FOR WORSHIP AND FELLOWSHIP. Fortunately, those arent your only two choices. If you dont sync with their teaching, dont follow them. I havent done One in a Million yet) this is supposition on your part. What does the Bible say about discerning between true and false doctrine? And to top that all off, shes beautiful and sharp as a tack. Then why did you ask me any questions? Thats good, but that doesnt change the fact that neither Beth nor Priscilla turn down speaking events that are open to both men and women. I think I dont think I feel If youre a Christian, what you think, feel, believe, say, and do is supposed to be governed by Scripture. I can always use more people praying for me. I dont follow TGC any more. As far as Priscilla, I am unsure of this. read more, Scripture: That's a possibility, but a better plan is that Scripture is Holy Spirit inspired. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective. Here is a short http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com article on Lisa: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=10843, You can also tell a lot about these leaders by what events they speak at: 2 John 1:1-11. If youre not familiar with the false teachers cited below, click the Popular False Teachers and Unbiblical Trends tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page. How can you trust that anything else she teaches you about the Bible is accurate and true? You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. read more, Scripture: Going Beyond Obedience. Let's find out as we begin this study in discernment, Choose What Is Right. ), placing herself into scripture and thereby improperly luring women to God through personal experiences of Jesus instead of purely reading the Word of God. Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). And how their lives could be changed, too. How do we respond to those who are new Christians and who still "smell" of their former sinful lives? There are two sources for fear: when we are caught up in something we did not count on, and when we are not in control. 1 Samuel 30:6-8, Denomination: Maybe a good example of Priscilla using eisegesis to teach scripture? It was stated, that the big name pastors are no where to be found when standing against these deceptions. I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. 3. "Those from among you will rebuild the ancient ruins; You will raise up the age-old foundations; And you will be called the repairer of the breach, The restorer of the streets in which to dwell. Im pretty sure some of our ladies are going to ask me where the evidence is that she was purposely teaching scripture to men. Priscilla and her husband of 22 years, Jerry Shirer, lead Going Beyond Ministries through which they provide spiritual support and resources to the body of Christ. Amen. I am not sure that the Gospel Coalition is a credible source. She is the New York Times Best Selling author of more than two dozen books and has had featured roles in movies like War Room (2015), I Can Only Imagine (2018) and Overcomer (2019). :0), She also hangs out with Beth Moore. I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. CEB Brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit. Michelle Thank you for your work in the area of discernment. I wont be publishing comments or answering emails that are answered by this article. She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. I can tell that just from your comment. Having just heard what efforts even St. Paul had to make to run in the Christian race, and how terribly their fathers in the wilderness had failed to meet the requirements of God, they might be inclined to throw up every effort in despair. And yet you thank him as opposed to rebuking him. Holy cow! Id be interested, too! God bless you, and keep up the good work sister! Let us look at it from a mindset point of view. Evangelical/Non-Denominational. I think the following articles will be helpful in answering your question: You might also want to take a look at the other articles in my Rock Your Role series. It was an immediate NO after I listened to less than 1 minute of her reference about Oprah. 2 Kings 5:1-15 To think one can just enter there work into the public domain without criticism, is simply ludicrous! However, a teenager pointed out to me that Abraham was called . They needed to be reminded of who the true Christ of Scripture was. Let me tell you something, if your church recommended War Room, you can almost be certain that its leadership knew next to nothing about Shirer. Matthew 6:9-13. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Do you have any other examples? When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray, He taught them: Pray then like this: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. (I remember when I was a missionary to New Guinea back in the 80s, the missionaries were teaching us how to reach the unsaved New Guinea nationals by telling simple Bible stories, and stories of how our lives were changed by Jesus. September 1, 2002 I. Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. Tools. Introduction to Beyond Sunday Series: Priscilla Shirer on Hearing the Voice of God on Issues, Etc. to me she lacks conviction of the word I dont hear it; she reminds me of Joel Osteen and thats not a compliment. BEYOND ENCOURAGEMENT Jonah 2:10. Esther 4:16 fasting. But when an author rebukes another Christian publicly, as you have Ms. Shirer, than perhaps they may be asked to clarify further? (This is where the video above ends. Its a complete waste of time. 1 Corinthians 4:6 says: As for the topic of this post neither of us have heard of her, but thanks for the heads up and good article as always. I do not endorse any of these sites in so far as any of them might deviate from Scripture or conflict with my beliefs as outlined in the Welcome or Statement of Faith tabs at the top of this page. AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry There are It states our purpose to do only those things which are authorized by the Scripture. Choose What Is Right: A Study in Discernment ~ Lesson 1- Introduction, Going Beyond Scripture: Why It's Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, The Mailbag: Celebrity Christian Hot Takes (Driscoll, Graham, Groeschel, Lewis, Lucado, Piper, Vallotton), Leaving Lysa: Why You Shouldn't Be Following Lysa TerKeurst or Proverbs 31 Ministries, Doctrinally Sound Christian Men to Follow - 1, Bible Gateway- Fantastic concordance and other Bible tools, CARM- Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, Christian Answers for the New Age (Marcia Montenegro). rather than on the Bible. Do you interpret scripture to mean women should not witness to all people; share the gospel message to all nations not just other women or children? 1. Can you explain ? If you need more information, Id suggest BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, CARM.org, GTY.org, and Apprising.org. Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Or will we apply extra effort and go beyond our duty? I KNOW this is your website and if I dont like it or cant relate to or dont understand what your position is on a particular topic~ I have the choice to stop reading. Thanks for stopping by! If your ladies need a doctrinally sound Bible study in the future, theyre welcome to use anything under the Bible studies tab at the top of this page. Moving Beyond the Motions Thats a rare find these days. YLT, NASB, ASV, AM, LEB, WEB. Pastors dont read LifeWay studies or pay attention to the false teaching crowd, for the most part. I really dont want to study scripture with/ from someone who is knowingly sinning by leading His lambs astray. Priscilla Shirer: Living Your Life For Christ (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (February 18, 2021) Priscilla speaks at Christine Caines Propel Womens Conference. 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