Organized religion can make millions of people believe the earth is flat and kill those who disagree. She is not above physical confrontation, is very charming, and amicable, as well as possessing a very cheeky sense of humor. The Adam of the y-chromosome isnt an individual, but a group of humans and has nothing to do with the biblical Person Adam. By modern legal definition, Cain would have had to commit incest with one of his sisters in order to create offspring because he had no other choice. Just some thoughts. Jesus notabene never had insisted or confirmed, that Adam and Eve were the first two humans. 1:13) Paul in fact warned the congregation in Crete of such stories (Titus 1:14) he told the Cretans to avoid the Jewish Fables. This seems to foreshadow the blood avenger, who was usually a family member. (Job 38:8-11). Come on. Which means interbreeding. 100 September 7, 2018 at 8:56 AM The fact that Cain was religious like his brother Abel reminds us that this tale is still revelant due to the fratricide occuring presently between people of the same race adhering to diverse religious beliefs. Although there was no written commandment against incest at this time, Jews knew that sexual union with ones parent was not part of Gods plan for procreation (Genesis 2:24). After all, Cain and Abel are apparently the only children of creation's first couple, so where did this unnamed woman whom Cain marries in . There, as exemple, agriculture began 10,000-12,000 years ago. Such a conclusion, however, overlooks the fact that when God created the world, [] it was very good and without sin, according to Matt Slick. 4 But when our father Adam saw them around him, he wept at having to be 3. The Sumerian King List calls it Unug and places it next to Uruk (Erech). Direct evidence for agriculture is over 20,000 years old, domestication of animals over 40,000 years, art (statues, musical instruments, paintings) around 40,000 years and stitched clothing and needles for making it are over 30,000 years, metallurgy is at least 12,000 years and large stone structures were being built at least 10,000 years ago. As for the ability of generations to pass stories along by mouth and accurately this has in fact been demonstrated by anthropologists studying other cultures not Near Eastern ones. Cain didnt marry his sister, he got his wife from the land of Nod. To continue, this is why the Adamic blood line, through Seth, had to remain unmixed all the way down to Jesus who was the Christ. The most likely translation would include an implied of, as found in many English translations (see below). Consistently, the calculations overestimated the size of the founding population. Of course, Noahs flood was local. This seems a strange thing to say given that the Old and New Testaments, as well as ancient Hebrew and Christian commentaries taught that our bodies will rise again from the dust. Where did she come from? We have no way of knowing if Cain was the first child. Mervyn, Waiting for a reply from Mary Leith. Consequently, although this is not stated, the only logical conclusion is that Cain married his sister and they had children together. Cain would have married a close relative. How is that building faith? This is history, not myth. I do understand that there is a Mitochondrial Eve and a Y-DNA Adam lurking back there in the distance. From the dust refers to Adams material texture, while the verb jatzar refers to the emerging from the womb. This is usually because of societal taboos or fear of genetic defects. Thats why its important to read the Bible over and over, as you and your spirit mature, you will understand more. Why did Herod like to listen to John the Baptist, who criticized Herods lifestyle? It is so easy to understand that it is beyond me why people want to complicate things. Hence, The Amplified Old Testament describes Cains wife simply as one of Adams offspring., Nineteenth-century Bible commentator Adam Clarke speculated that Gods establishing a sign as a result of Cains fear came about because several generations of Adams descendants already existedenough to found several villages.. The majority of this period was filled with hunting. If Cain and his sister had children together, they would have passed on genetic mutations leading to birth defects and a host of diseases. The flood of Genesis could not be global, because God said that on day three He set a boundary for the waters, so that the earth would not return to Genesis 1:2 (Job 38:8-11; Psalm 104:5-9; Proverbs 8:27-29). Why does BAR continually post heretical articles? We all are all direct decedents of Adam and Eve which would mean there is absolutely 0% genetic variation between us and them because every person came from the same mother and father, so if they had no ill effects from incest why would we with the same blood? This . prior to writing or Peking about it. If we add some other group of people not descended from Adam and Eve, the entire story of the Tree of Knowledge and Tree of Life and the 7 day creation and Adams longing for a helpmeet which is then made from his side becomes nonsensical. In theory, this would have dropped the worlds population from four down to three. I would also add that the descrptions of the land of Eden, its garden and the surrounding lands only make sense during the last ice age. Cain had a twin sister, who he eventually married and Abel was part of a set of triplets and he married one of those triplet sisters. Likewise, the mtDNA can be traced back to a single ancestral sequence, which can be interpreted as either Eve or the last common ancestor of the wives of Noahs sons. In July 2016, news emerged that Heidi Swafford had been stabbed multiple times during a fight. In Hebrew, it means: YHWH Elohim formed Adam, (he was) dust from the ground; in the meaning of Adam WAS dust from the ground (Gen. 3.19). When we do this, we find four names from Cain to Mehujael (meaning smitten by God) and four names from Seth to Mahalalel (meaning praise of God). The first came out red, all his body like a hairy cloak, so they called his name Esau. In Gen. 1 man is told to subdue and rule over the earth and that he plants and that animals also ate plants. There is evidence that Adam and eve lived out of Bible . http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0022821 There were no other womenjust one woman, Eve. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8117915.stm, Modern Culture Over 40,000 Yrs. Other Jewish traditions F4 mention that Cain and Abel were born with twin sisters and that Cain's twin sister F5 was not that beautiful and that this was part of the dispute between Cain and Abel, who had a prettier wife/twin sister. 3 When Seth heard these words from his father Adam, he went from him, shed Were Adam and Eve the only couple who were created in the manner described in the Book of Genesis? The KJV says it correctly: Gen 3:20, And Adam called his wifes name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/prehistoric/chauvet-cave-paintings.htm, Flute 40,000 And 30,000 Yrs Who did Cain marry? All Genesis 4:17 says is that after leaving the land of Eden, Cain and his wife had children. That is why we find so much evidence after about 12,000 years ago, but that is not when it all started, nor do we know how widespread it was. The majority understanding for the last 2,000 years has been that Adam was the first man and Eve the first woman, and that God started with just two people (Genesis 1:27, 2:7, 22-24, 3:20; Book of Tobit 8:6; Book of Jubilees 2:14, 23; Antiquities Bk. POOR GEORGE BELIEVES THAT GENESIS IS CREATION MYTHS. The KJV uses the word "keeper," but the Hebrew word ro'eh means shepherd. Aries. Then he became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and called his name Seth. I think it is obvious, that there were humans (so-called preadamites) before Adam and Eve. A couple of interesting points are: 1. in verse 5 it points out that the vegetation was watered by a mist no rain.that did not come until after the flood.a lucid canopy of water surrounded the earth on the outer edge of the atmosphere..that is where the water came from for the floodthe entire earth was tropical back then. By the time of Abraham, his birthplace, the advanced city of Ur in Chaldea, was a river port. I see we agree on a lot, but adam is singular in verses 26 and 27. Does the devil have power to make us sick? He loves Jehovah and his brother. Genesis tells us where Cain went to a city he named Enoch. My Chinese friend, a civil engineer there who was raised atheist & became an ardent follower of Jesus & Bible student after her wakening experience with Him followed by a vivid dream of Him summoning her to faith, had no problem with this question. Yes, I do believe Adam and Eve had more children. So, just like Genesis two, we have a single man created first, and then a single pair of individuals (one male and one female). People please STOP. For the non-believers, JESUS is the truth, if u do not believe that, u have work to do. There is nothing in Genesis to indicate that Cain married some unknown female. The Bible reminds us that we return to dust when we die. On the NEXT day G-d created Eth HA Adam who was THE Man/Adam from which the line of Christ comes. The lack of respect in evidence-based science in favor of stories passed along generations trying to figure out the origin of all things is incredible. Once again the Focus is on the naming of the entire mankind, in the first two verses. THERE IS NO other conclusion one can come to. The Flat Earth model is an archaic belief that the Earths shape is a plane or disk. The world of the Bible is knowable. Gen. 2:7 formed the man OF dust (aphar) from (min) the ground (adamah). You nailed it. [13] http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=Cain&p=par, Your email address will not be published. and during this wandering he knew his wife and not married. Guess what we find in the area of the Arabian river system: gold, bdellium and onyx. Gen. 3:20: Adam called his wifes name Eve, because she had to become the mother of everyone living. (So all humans were to be the offspring of Adam and Eve.) In the November/December 2013 issue of BAR, Mary Joan Winn Leith addresses these questions and explores the identity of the wife of Cain in Who Did Cain Marry?. To go outside these parameters is confessing you do not believe the account of creation as stated in Genesis. What did you mean by a land sounding like the Angel (cherub). Im sorry, but I do not understand most of what you wrote. Why do people who dont even believe that there was a literal person name Cain care about who he married? zakar & neqebah), which come about at the same time and in unknown number, the paradise story means the arising of two individuals, one man and one woman (isch & ischah). I just hate how the article tries to weave lies in to truth..ie theres no actual evidence the bible supports people outside of creation just because they want to make it look like it does. Even the Big Bang theory was fathered by a preist. Vote Up The biblical example above demonstrates the potential for long-term consequences. And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch. It centers on the Land of Eden. Why do we want to create or write our own bible?The bible clearly states his wife came from the land of Nod. Truth, you defend literalism, then quoted a verse then ignored its obvious literal meaning.all scripture is inspired by God and profitable for doctrine. Today the city is called Warka. the Bible doesnt give us the information of it because its God minded not to reveal the secret. This Bible History Daily feature was originally published in 2013. "If the entire human race came from an original pair then this was unavoidable," according to Don Stewart. More answers below Quora User What is being asked in, Who did Cain marry? With the help of the biblical Genealogie, Adam and Eve can be dated 5500 b. C., the middle of Neolithic period. But traditions still vary from society to society. Regards. came to him in the Cave of Treasures, The only wife I identified of Cain is written in the banded books Eden, called The First & Second book, or The Testament of Adam & Eve. When Im in Heaven Ill know the answer to all the things I dont know here. When the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense (most of the time). Now that said, I am more interested in what my creator took from Adam and made Eve his soulmate. The Bible doesnt say he was, it just mentions him first. mmmh thats interesting.never thought closely the story of Cain.thanks for revelation. Sounds like a lot of assumptions in her article which denigrate the Biblical record into a biased account of one of, in the authors eyes, just many people on the earth. I quite agree that Cain married his sister as a wife since there is no human on earth before God created Adam and Eve. Who specifically taught a flat earth? Cain marries Luluwa his own sister . When reading and studying the scripture I kept asking that at the time of creation Bible Genesis writer said God created them men and women, so where were this other people? Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch" (Genesis 4:16-17). Abel. Humans have been around for about 100,000 years. Noah the person God choose to save man on earth. 1 It is a good question. 7 Then Enos grew up, married, and begat Cainan. Including Cains marriage in a nearby town etc. The breath of life, in the nostrils, is found in both man and animals (Genesis 2:7 and 7:22). So, domestication is right there, in Genesis one, with the first man (Adam). These verses are quite clear. Since the Enlightenment this question has repeatedly come up in rhetoric against Biblical inerrancy. The All-Access membership pass is the way to get to know the Bible through biblical archaeology. 2 responses If you dont believe the biblical narrative,as another replier has mention it is open to any assumption or presupposition. The Bible said that Cain went to Nod. Report. But if Adam and Eve his parents were the only ones left besides Cain (Abel was dead, remember), did he fear his parents then? Gen 2:20 No suitable helper was found It rules out a gap between verses one and two. In fact, in different writings, Adam and Eve had different numbers of children, all many more then five. Very little is known about her but it appears the singer is also quite close to his sister and has maintained a close bond with her. I know Jewish sources are not the Word of God, but you said that old Hebrews would laugh at the idea of humans being made out of dust or mud. Each of these are talking about the creation week. Mary Joan Winn Leith first explores the traditional Jewish and Christian answers that contend that the wife of Cain was another daughter of Adam and Eve. The point isnt that Adam and Eve are the ultimate first agriculturalists ever, but the first biblically recorded ones. This paraphrased account of Scripture highlights a very common misconception related to where Cain got his wife. Its easy to verify, whos right and whos wrong. the mountain in the east Its about time to review our view of Adams and Eves reality of life! If Adam was made originally with everything then must have a curved body similar to that of a woman. Bara refers to bringing something new into existence. This also affects their witnessing to non-Christians; Third, for many non-Christians, this is a stumbling block hindering them from believing that they can trust the Bible as being a true record of history, from the first book, Genesis, onwards. Far too many wars have been fought in the name of religious intolerance. God has made a convincing case against incest and demonstrated that incest is both a cause of and a result of disobedience and pain. Abraham married his HALF SISTER Sarah ( Genesis 20:12) and GOD agreed it. He is quoting the two texts as a single unit meaning that He saw no distinction. This was possible in those days because 1) God allowed . The twins were Cain (Qabil) and his sister. [190-196 A.M.] And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, [197 A.M.] houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch. Gen 2:4-11:32 is the origins of Adams tribe, not the whole humankind. Therefore the earth, like other heavenly bodies, is suspended in space as if hanging on nothing. Read your Bible again). And suddenly it all makes sense, right? Science is able to help support these things. The answer to the question of where Cains wife came from is very simple. Wake up. He was concerned with Adam and Eve and their progenynot those outside of this group. God made man and woman. Thats right. I am disappointed that a scholar would use who when whom should have been used. In Muslim tradition, Cain was born with a twin sister who was named Aclima, and Abel with a twin sister named Jumella. In Cain's amniotic sac there was a twin sister, and in Abel's there were two twin sisters. shed my blessing on them ere I die. we are say elot of things but never knew the right truth. By the way, I looked at the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, Brown, Driver, Briggs, Hebrew and English Lexicon and Holladay, Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the OT. These are highly respected sources. Yeh, the first historical figures in Bible are from 8th century B.C (Before Christ) 5 So Adam married him to Aklia. I also believe there were dinosaurs and other hominids that God also created. If so, you might want to check out Genesis 1:2 which uses a waw disjunctive. Community answers are sorted based on votes. 3:19 as evidence that from the dust equals the womb. Don Stewart. There were already humans on the earth. Cain marrying a sister or cousin would have been recorded. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_man_of_the_Hohlenstein_Stadel Evolution is the reason you try to reinterpret the scriptures. Now we see dimmly, but when we as believers in Christ Jesus are welcomed home as good and faithful servants we will see clearly. Combine a one-year tablet and print subscription to BAR with membership in the BAS Library to start your journey into the ancient past today! He still had commanded them to fill the earth and subdue it, no matter how He felt over Abels demise. On the science side: Mary Joan Winn Leith first explores the traditional Jewish and Christian answers that contend that the wife of Cain was another daughter of Adam and Eve. How, we might respond, could this be? It overturns our way of thinking. It isnt a criterium how long a false doctrine is believed in. The audience understood the cultural cues and were unconcerned about narrative contradictions and inconsistencies as they had an entirely different way of thinking than us moderns do. interestingly, we must know that Adam and Eve was the very first creation of God. Biblical Archaeology Society, "Who Were the Ammonites, Moabites and Edomites in the Bible?" There also is some evidence of two additional but now dry riverbeds in the Near East which lends more credibility to the original Adam and Eve story with the four named rivers. There were no other people outside the first family. The story shows us that no matter how far we have fallen, how great our sin, God is still Jehovah Jireah.. In many languages they talk about the man, the mankind understood, no special individual. Ill want to respond to some comments. THIS man and his wife Chavah Eve were LIVING souls. Cain since enlisted help from his estranged brother Caleb in the battle . Thats why he must be born again/born from above. Watch youtube.com/theoldpath or go to http://www.esorianoblogspot.com. The history (not stories) of Adam, Cain and other early characters is replicated THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND WERE KNOW LONG BEFORE THE CHRISTIAN MISIONARIES TAUGHT IN THOSE COUNTRIES. Gen.4 gave a random summary of Cains life. If Abel was Cursed, then if this meant when you say curse, then perhaps he was cursed. Yes, you are right that Genesis 2:7 does not technically say formed FROM the dust, but that is the overall implied meaning. IF YOU SAYCAIN GOT HIS WIFE FROM NOD TOWN OR VILLAGEREMEMBER-GOD CREATED ADAM IN HIS LIKNESS & IMAGE THEN FROM SAME ADAM GOD MADE EVE. And Lamech murdering Cain? It is this future world that is the source of the breath of life, existing beyond the limitations of this world, and comprises of both past and future. Again we find the stark contrast between righteous and evil deeds, just as we have seen before in the contrast between light and darkness (John 3:19-21). By the way the Greek translation (LXX) agrees and uses a singular personal pronoun for him and a plural personal pronoun for them. AP. Again, why bother becoming a Pastor. He sends his son Tobias to collect a debt. This is exactly what your local weatherman does every day. and then begat other children than him, The story was about Cain and Abel, and it is only said they were children of Adam and Eve. Read the teachings of Jesus in how they relate to fulfill the prophecies, make a new covenant (law) and ask did Jesus die for this to change? OT law was eye for an eye, God smite my enemies, crucify the thief! Gen. 3:23 So the Lord God sent him from (min) the garden of Eden, to work the ground (adamah) that he had been taken (laqach) from (min). I was just answering your challenge. I misunderstood your reference to the idea of a flat earth. When you think of celebrity twins, famous duos like Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen or Tegan and Sara Quin might come to mind. Cain, the firstborn, was a farmer, and his brother Abel was a shepherd.The brothers made sacrifices to God, but God favored Abel's sacrifice instead of Cain's.Cain then murdered Abel, whereupon God punished Cain by condemning him to a life of wandering. Sure they both use yatsar (form), but one is from the dust and one is in the womb. Christians started most of the sciences. If Adam was to eat from the tree, it would imply he partook in fornication as well, regardless of what he also did with Eve. God has to put a mark on his forehead, so that anyone who finds him, will not kill him. Cain was the son of God. Did agriculture begin in Paradise (Gen. 2:15) or after the expulsion? This is before Adam & Eve, This is when the races of men were created There were people outside of the Garden, Adam & Eve came after in Chapter 2. & verse 9 says, And Cain took wn his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. 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