8:00am Preparation for Mass*. Heck, they dont even tell every person they meet to avoid the Novus Ordo! it comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. They prefer the Traditional Mass for sure but they are not going to cause any scandal to other Catholics by being disobedient to the Pope even when doing so would help to save souls. With respect, atttempts to moderate commmenters on this site have been undertaken by other commenters here before, going back years. We are semi-contemplative Marian Sisters, which means that, while we pray the full Divine Office in common and have 1-1/2 hour of mental prayer each day, we also . The heartfelt acknowledgment of potential loss is a sure-fire way of checking contempt and correcting things. The attacks from Michael Voris & CMTV against Catholics in the SSPX would not be possible were it not for the FSSP and the Bishops who ordain Priests for the FSSP. Falling away from the Church is falling away from love of a Person, a veritable running away from the home Christ built. Join Fr. **********Breaking News********** I pray the chaplet everyday at 3-00oclock God willing. Novus Ordo Traditionalists That is the most Orwellian phrase I have ever heard. Fort Myers, FL http://iconicjesus.org/home/category/objections-to-divine-mercy-sunday/. 3rd group those that choose only to attend TLM except for funerals weddings etc. And weather.) May Our Lord reward you for your great defense of the Faith and holy priests, EVERYWHERE!! Saguto is FSSPDistrict Superior in the United States: Insanity has been described as "doing the same over and over while expecting different results." Time and again I have tried to make clear that pocket recordings do not faithfully reproduce choral sound. There are valid consecrations within masses said by schismatics. There is no doctrine, no moral apart from Him who declares Himself to the be the Truth. Los Angeles, CA With Thanksgiving Day, many are (or were, depending on where you live) looking forward to getting together at home and spending time with family and friends. To accuse the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peters members of be responsible for the break-up of marriages is scurrilous and reprehensible. (Mt 16:15) There is only one correct answer to this question, upon which is built the entire deposit of Faith. The Missive Tags: Catholic Extraordinary Form, FSSP, Tridentine Mass Please keep in mind that I am speaking only for myself. I can see where its slightly off, but no more. Maple Hill, KS Increasingly, Voriss obsession (which apparently is driven in some way by his backers, Mr. Carroll and Fr. General Chaplain Father Stefan Reiner. Saguto FSSP on Saturday, October 7, 2017. FORT WAYNE. Allentown, PA I thank God daily for them. There is a glee I read here when piokolby and rich and some others come out with yet another outrageous statement about somebody. FSSP Events Barbara, Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! Omaha, NE The Church is a home, and that is because it begins with a Person, Jesus Christ, true God and true Man. We laughed hard. Scranton, PA Scranton, PA Alarico, thank you for bringing this to my attention. Another is the fallen-nature blindness that affects us all and inclines us to take for granted things that we are used to: be it a spouse, family, friends, health, employment, position, or other things. I had already decided (in agreement with you) to stay away from CMTV and T. Marshall. Father Joseph DeGuzman, FSSP, from priestly ministry outside the archdiocese to chaplain of the Latin Mass Community of St. Since the fruits got worse and worse he understood that he needed to protect souls and to warn them about the dangers to their Faith. (1 Cor:23). With only a vague sense of her origins and history, and an anemic experience with the institutional aspect of the Church, many Catholics indeed tend to view the Church as a sum of commands and rules, imposing a morality that they find outdated or even impossible. If he so desired, in this year of mercy, to also grant them jurisdiction, TMAHICH could do so. I feel sorry for Michael Voris. I am only asking this question in the hope that you can shed some light on this kind of behavior. Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. Gerard Saguto, admits that further explanation regarding Fr. Also, the cardinal mentioned Fr. One single Traditional Catholic College in the whole United States operating with the approval of the local ordinary was just too much to ask. It may seem ironic, but I have zero tolerance for that. We can point out very effectively what is happening without name-calling, and certainly without shouting from the rooftops that this priest, this bishop, this society or association is in mortal sin mostly because we dont like what they have done in particular circumstances. Fr. I pray that Catholics (on BOTH sides of this issue) read your response and learn that the real enemies of Our Lord love confusion and division. At least warn Catholics who cross our path. ** Views and opinions expressed in the Missive are solely the writers and do not necessarily reflect those of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. I will take a look at the link you posted. . A cardinal such as Cardinal Burke should speak the truth no matter what the modernist destroyers want. Fr. The error can be found in document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. Priest Training Workshops His last day at Mater Dei was 8/30/2015. I certainly never meant to give that impression nor do I wish to be smug and patronizing. They are within the Church. The worst criticism of the SSPX sure comes from the Novus Ordo Traditionalists. The way it is done here by poikolby and some others is NOT the Catholic way taught by Jesus Himself. Lexington, KY His work is exclusive in design, liturgically correct and unequaled in beauty. Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary Yes Archbishop Lefebvre wouldnt be disobedient unless it was to protect the Faith. No status means just that none. Terry is a parishioner at Mater Dei parish, run by the FSSP, in Irving, TX. Im also reminded of Dr.Taylor Marshalls involvement of Fisher More College and am still in the dark as to many of the details. Nor are they interested in hearing the kind of drivel spewed out by piokolby, rich and others. His visit was strictly Fraternity business; he is visiting all apostolates in connection with his duties as Superior General. Love your enemies, be good to those who hate you is not a suggestion. We here at Church Militant have one concern here: Despite stupid claims that we are doing this for money, we are concerned about the souls of our fellow Catholics. LiveMass.Net Sunday Masses will . I hope Catholics will be protected from those responsible. Voris- shmoriswho cares? Please allow us and them to listen to you. Thank you. All of us have a duties as Catholics. There is a growth in insight into the realities and words that are being passed on. The majority do beleive there were true popes since 1958. hi, scott, The FSSP accepts the new mass and Vatican II. Fresno, CA 1:00pm Keynote Speaker - Dr. Robert Loretz. Youre free to believe so if youd like, but I dont. The Radical Catholic blog has confirmed from CMTV that Voris and CMTV plagiarized the sermon of a Priest of the FSSP in his attack on the SSPX. It might seem like a small misfortune, but that Colleges demise illustrates in spades the traps awaiting any future independent and stridently Catholic apostolate that seeks to foster unity among the trad diaspora. 5: Zero. You do not have to rehash your reasons why you hate Mr. Matts opinion as I just re-read your words and the responders here on this link: Can we just let Michael Voris get on with his shtick? Phoenix, AZ The SSPX doesnt tell everyone they meet to avoid the FSSP. I know a fair number of Fraternity priests, and they are among the finest priests I have ever met. Iv read and listened to lots of different people speak against this devotion but it never changed my mind. His Vortexellency has no authority to make this subjective determination as to willful intent. That we were all good people. http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f072_DivMercy.htm. Servant of Our Lady, They do not understand epikeia at all it seems to me. S testigo de la experiencia de la. North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA. I will not take it any further than that here, with respect to Louies request to engage in sedevacantist disussions at length not here, but in the forums. No need to be so defensive i wrote a short paragraph to explain things to people who read the blog and comments. Wigratzbad Seminary Many cant wait to give the high-five, and say Amen. We do need to know who we can trust and who we cannot. All evil? If the Holy Ghost impressed them, that means He is always ready to stir up their consequences a renewed and invigored faith, courage to tackle the obstacles that challenge its practice, be it in our own soul or in the world, for the love of God and neighbor in the imitation of Christ. Saguto, time for adoration and confessions, and a Rosary walk. The abandoning took place with the founding document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. You have inaccurately classified & also inaccurately defined the sedevacantist position. Post Falls, ID Beloved husband of Marie (nee Corallo). If I NEVER run into another one again I will consider myself blessed. IMHO that, along with Verrecchios exhilarating writing style make this site what is-a meeting place to ignite the thinking process. Mine is no1. Confraternity of St. Peter Pastor of Queen of the Holy Rosary in Vienna. Congrats. Register Now. In a Nov. 15 statement, Archbishop Bernard Hebda said the recall of Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, "was taken in response to an issue that had surfaced in trauma counseling undertaken voluntarily by Father Saguto and brought by him to the attention of his superiors. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. Go back to them. Im the same age as the Pope but even Fr. Nothing more and probably less. the requirement that adults not be alone with minors).. But I realized, and it actually had nothing to do w/sedevacantism, that me and mine WERE Nancy Pelosi. The greatest hurdle faced by the children of the Church in this case is coming to terms with the fact this is even possible, which one can do by applying their intellect to the situation in the light of faith, at which point the picture will become clear: Those who cling to the clarity dispensed by the Church before the Council cannot possibly be on anything other than solid ground, while those who accept the conciliar compromises are at risk of losing the faith. It is a reaction to the dreadful years after the Second Vatican Council which is getting worse by the minute. Richmond, VA ****** You are supporting evil. In my experience Ive found them to be extremely obedient people who were obedient as children. Gerard Saguto, FSSP We all have blind spots about ourselves and situations we may be in, and the realization of such things can be quite the exercise in humility. Faithful Catholics do not have time to be having this debate with the Synod just around the corner. Gerard Saguto was our first pastor. I talk to a lot of people In and about the Fraternity. Agree. ), Even though Im not real keen on the idea of expending a great deal of energy parsing the criticisms of a man who is so clearly motivated by an agenda that has nothing whatsoever to do with seeking and telling the truth. And it comes from the preaching of those who have received, along with their right of succession in the episcopate, the sure charism of truth. They ignore him as youd ignore an ant at a picnic. Pequannock, NJ All the doctors had it wrong and he wasnt dead then he made up a story. As I am not a malicious person, I suppose I will simply be ignorant in the public eye now. Chesapeake, VA Athanasius Schneider, Bp. Really? me) Die for Him? [Jesus: The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. Omaha, NE This cannot become ho-hum, but we know there is always a danger of that, or getting stuck in a rut. FSSP Missions *** Where are the readers of this blog who have had enough of this detraction and gossip? No one here is committing the Mortal sin of Calumny here against the FSSP or Father Wolfe FSSP. Voris has so applied his intellect. A great film and you posted it on St. Joseph of Cupertinos feast day! Dear grandfather of. No wonder then, that at the beginning of the liturgical year the Church employs the imperative Excita Stir up! The priest claimed that his superior forbid him from submitting to fingerprinting and that out of obedience he had to refuse to follow the diocesan policy. For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. Opus dei (small d) is the lace connecting all the dots of the CMTV operation that not many people appear to be willing to look into. FSSP International I will look at the link of this man who was dead. But, respectfully, I cannot agree that the FSSP has abandoned Christ through their current status. http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false158.htm Sure, we believe in what the Church proposes for us to believe because it comes from Jesus Christ, but that needs to penetrate more deeply and be pulled in from its ethereal orbit around our souls. North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA. Lots of us jump in to visit Mr.V., in the midst of raising broods of children & grandchildren, juggling this and that, including old age & a long time witnessing the collapse since before 1963 for example. The accusation that I luv those who want to destroy the Church is an obfuscation. It includes those who, through no or >>limited<>>limited<<< fault of their own. Positively, perspective and vigor can also be reclaimed by personal initiative and vigilance to make sure we do not get into ruts with the things that are supposed to be most important, that we are mindful of the obvious in such matters (kind of ironic when you hear it said that way). In fact, there seems to be an unspoken standard for comparison about what constitutes a home: home is supposed to be a place of security, stability, and safety, a place where one found love and learned about life, was educated and allowed to mature, so as to engage and contribute well to the larger world outside it, and remained always a place one can return to for a needed respite. Ottawa, ON Fortunately, I have read my way to excellent sites such as this one, if only by the grace of Almighty God. Problem sorted. This means that love is the basis of being a member of the Church, as it is supposed to be the basis of being a member of a home. Philadelphia, PA North American Martyrs Parish is a Roman Catholic parish in Edmonds, Washington, served by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). Those who have ears will hear, those who have eyes will see. Stay away. Will the FSSP issue a public statement in support of the SSPX and debunk the schism myth? In any case, the plagiarized text (as alleged in the link above) is taken from a sermon given by Fr. Have you noticed the fall off in comments by the regulars? Saskatoon, SK And we must distinguish between the two. all the time & with mutually expressed warmth. In real life, the sounds I hear are absolutely luscious and absolutely glorious. FSSP en MEXICO - Oficial 14.7K subscribers Subscribe Like Share 1.8K views 1 year ago Esto es una pequesima muestra de lo que da identidad a la FSSP. Fall - Men's Recollection - The Holy Name Society will be sponsoring a Men's Morning of Recollection given by Fr. God love you! I'm not there often just because of distance and time of day on my bike. Nor is it a personal attack on you. His first Mass in Seattle will be on Sunday, October 5th and it will be a sung Mass. Thank you for your kind response which I believe to be as sincere as my question. His pastor for some time (until very recently) was Fr. Wigratzbad Seminary Fresno, CA The leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson need to do their duty. Ive seen this story play out more than once before. As dysfunctional as the Church can be in her human element and she is it is perfect love of Christ Crucified, our Eternal Contemporary as Ven. And then theres Archbishop Lefebvre, who was more than willing to work within diocesan and canonical frameworks when he erected the SSPX, and asked for nothing more than that when he met with Paul VI. It does not matter whether folks think that those Dimond Bros. are fanatics or anything else they may think. hi, Servant of Our Lady, All that said, I found it very unfortunate that Bishop Olson yanked away the TLM without providing any alternative using his own resources, either at the college or within reasonable proximity to it. Within that undertaking will be the discovery of where Catholicsm actually lives on, whole & entire, undefiled, untainted & immutable. Houston, TX Saguto (FSSPDistrict Superior) 31 May 4:30pm St. Victor Church in Hollywood (Los Angeles) ORGANPROCESSIONAL Organist: Meaghan King 120. A group like CMRI *does* accept those consequences, quite readily; they are not bothering to depend on any bishops but their own for their apostolates. . Those who favour the Society of St. Pius X will not change their minds. +Wmson is therefore blind himself imagine St. John the Baptist (or Jesus) stating that the high priests, scribes and pharisees were good people . Please look more closely at this. I found it on the New Liturgical Movement website. The good taste and good judgement of this project is thanks to the pastor, Fr. English-speaking Chaplain . For this reason Catholics must be wary of them. It has been my experience time and again that fellow Trads, who later support the sedevacantist position, want nothing to do with family or friends who do not take this position. Calumny is a sin where one tells a lie with the intention of harming the reputation of another. make use of all the sacraments in the (old rite) at places like the FFSP , ICKSP etc this is where it can become a little complicated while these places offer all sacraments in the (old rite) they are in what we hear voris and others saying full communion with/under rome meaning that they are under the jurisdiction of the local bishop and cant/dont attack issues like the second vatican council. Prior to working at CNA, she was the managing web editor of Townhall.com; she has a BA in. Do they disagree with Voris? Now I suppose he is throwing darts at it. Hello john6. The Morning of Recollection will be open to all men including non-parishioners and will include a conference by Fr. He pretends he never believed anything other than what he spews today. Take any good news with a grain of salt when it comes from modernists. By contrast, what has Michael done relative to his new understanding? This is a very short description and in no way represents all the opinions of these groups listed. Wolfe has apparently been rather willing to speak about Vatican II in strongly condemnatory terms, and he also openly criticized Pope Francis in various sermons, although typically on weekdays when they are not recorded. It cannot be said in correct, exact, and precise terms that there is a schism. Catholics are watching and waiting. Fr. It helps to know who is on our team though, doesnt it? ARCHDIOCESE OF ST. PAUL & MPLS. *** Here, let it not be said that the interior of anyone is being judged. Now there is the objective case of schism, and the legal/subjective case of schism. God bless. Youre coming out of your usual comfort zone. Then I would place bells and whistles around the comment! The evidence is all around us. 3:00pm Closing Talk - Fr. Most noteworthy here is his utterly preposterous assertion that the SSPX came about in response to some amorphous weakening of the Church.. Michael Voris right now has a post up attacking the SSPX and he directly links to the FSSP site in Scotland and names Father John Emerson FSSP. Call Father Wolfe and ask him about the SSPX! This argument is fair enough; objective reality isnt subject to legal pronouncements. It is indeed a shame that there is not a single fully traditional Catholic college in the country. Joseph Terra (hes the FSSP priest who was badly beaten in the attack in Phoenix that killed Fr. Atlanta, GA Peace be to you. Father has done a 180 degree turn since his days in Kansas City, where I also was. If I ever respond with animosity (real or perceived) or have a defensive reaction, I take full responsibility for that & ask forgiveness for the vice it represents. I dont follow Mr. Voris. Louie, your excellent blog is being hijacked. dear rich, Tulsa, OK Kansas City/Westwood, KS I like Rad Trad would like to say more but in Justice I can not. Sacrificate sacrificium justitiae, et sperate in Domino, Telephone: (570) 842-4000Fax: (570) 319-9770info@fssp.com, Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter450 Venard RoadSouth Abington Township, PA 18411, SupportPrivacy PolicyMachine Readable Files, Adjutorium Program (Masses for Living and Deceased Members), Webinar Today: St. John Bosco Camp Application Launch. FSSP International Clarkdale, AZ German-speaking Chaplain Father Gerald Gesch. FSSP NA on YouTube The SSPX, Church Militant, and many other Catholics recognize the deep crisis that has been brought about by weak leaders, corrupt leaders, homosexual leaders, feminized leaders in the Church for the past fifty-odd years. Thomas Paprocki. I totally agree with you about CMTV. They accept the council and while there are priests that personally may object even tell certain parishiners this or that they have by joining one of these groups accepted romes position that the second vatican council is part of the church and tradition. At one time, I am certain that Michael Voris would likewise refuse to sign such a statement. Montreal, QC Support the FSSP Mission in Africa - Scapulars made by the parishioners of our FSSP Nigerian parish are available in the vestibule. dear salvemur, And to do it using the lame excuse that one is trying to speak the truth and warn others is to be blind to ones true motives. 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